Sunday, May 13, 2012

Tell Englewood Board of Education that It Shall Put the Children First!

The news that EPSD and Bergen Academy must pay 2.3 million dollars to children that they failed to protect was not welcomed by Englewood taxpayers. We live here. We know the depths from which this insidious neglect rises. Money is steadily flowing out of the district. How many lawsuits must a Board of Education lose before the realization that they are doing something wrong becomes plain to all?

Liliana Saumet
Liliana Saumet read this statement to the Englewood Board of Education on May 10, 2012. I stood by her side. She was stopped by the Board President when her 3 minutes were up. I yielded my 3 minutes to her. She was stopped anyway. Mr. Jefferson, the owner of the organization, Circle of Colors, was not stopped as he countered her statements in flowery words about how well the board and Dr. Carlisle are doing. Mr. Jefferson is paid well with the taxpayer's money and he speaks up against the stakeholders. He is afraid that change will render his highly questionable relationship with EPSD null and void. (By the way, it should be noted here that Mr. Jefferson is NOT an Englewood Resident)

Liliana Saumet:
"What I find more disturbing is that the superintendent and the board at the time, first allowed an administrator to tutor kids when he was not supposed to especially behind closed doors.  Secondly, I don’t know how a person that did not speak Spanish can tutor non-English speaking children. 

 What is more disgraceful and appalling is that the teachers and staff members that brought this up to the corresponding parties were fired.  The main concern for the superintendent and the board of education at the time was to maintain this buried as deep as they could, so it would not hinder the negotiations for the academies.  Additionally knowing that people who were and are members of the current board did nothing to rectify the situation, instead helped conceal the evidence is shameful.

Unfortunately, like I have stated before the only victims are again the children.  With this payoff the children will be denied help and activities that would enable them to succeed in life,  For the victims, yes they are getting pay, but no one knows the extent of the mental damage done to these kids.  Unfortunately for me, I know, since my sister was sexually molested as a child and today at age 45 she continues to live with the after effect of what was done to her.   I wonder, if board members and superintendents take an oath of protecting the children and making sure that the schools are safe institutions for them, were the Academies worth these children’s pain? What assures us parents and community members that this will not happen again? How many times situations similar to this will be swept under the rug so the district does not get a bad reputation and gets the desired grants?


 At the beginning of the school year we were told that changes were going to be implemented at the high school to unite the gap between the two sides.  However, every since that Dwight Morrow students spoke, I have not been able to put out of my mind what he said.  Therefore, I started doing some research and I am very concerned with what I found.  I spoke to a group of approximately 30 students, some from the academies, most from the regular school.  I have also talked to some staff members and the results are the following.

The opinion between the students is basically the same, the school has gotten worse with the fights, the drugs, food is really bad, some teachers don’t want to teach, and they play movies all the time for them to watch.  When I asked about motivation, one told me what’s that? My only motivation in the morning is for the school day to end as fast as possible; I cannot cut school or quit because my mom will kill me.  Another one said, to sum it up, no one cares. Then I asked about the unity between the two sides and I was told, yeah right the academy kids get everything.  


I was also told of an incident that a professor did not like the personal opinion of a student about a debate in class and just walked out. Some of the teachers are unhappy, they cannot cross educate between the regular school and the academies anymore, basically is like being in two different schools.  If we have unhappy teachers, we will have unhappy and bored students and as a result low test scores and a decrease in graduation rate.  As of April’s reports the total suspensions at the high school were up to 103 and the school year is not even over.  So what is the problem? Why haven’t the changes worked? Is it due to bad kids or lack of strong leadership? Have we given up on the non-academy children?


When I was younger I struggled in school, my mom was told by the teachers that I had a learning disability.  My mother, in her desperation wanted to know how bad it was and had me and my super smart 10 year old sister  IQ’s tested, I was 9.  To everyone amazement I not only scored 20 points above my sister, but I was considered gifted.  My teachers were surprised, but they did not want to step out of the box and continued the same teaching techniques.  

But my sister in her small wisdom realized that I learned differently, and took it upon herself to make me succeed.   At first her methods included blackmail (such as if you get an A I will not tell mom you were playing soccer with the boys), extortion (the payment usually good grades on my part) and rewards (I got the TV for the whole weekend if I made honor roll); at the end I just did it because I wanted her to be proud of me.  All in all she turned me into an A student and helped me develop techniques to compensate and be able to learn.

When we grew up and went to college, I still had to overcome a lot of challenges.  I wanted to know why for me things that people found hard were easy and the simple stuff   such as learning how to tie my shoes was so hard, why like my son calls it I have a squirrel personality and why I have to do things in a certain way.  At age 23 I was diagnosed with a form of autism, similar to aspergers, the Dr. did not know how I developed the skills I had to cope on my own.  But I knew, it was the love of a 10 year old for her sister.  

In conclusion, I really think it is not that complicated, if we work together, Forget all the mumble jumble, the politics, the tenures and instead surround our kids with teachers that can step out of the box and love what they do. If we surround our kids with strong leaders that would oversee, evaluate and motivate those caring teachers, we will have motivated and successful children.  It is not that hard. If a 10 year old did it why can’t we? At the age of 8 I learned how to tie my shoes."


                                                   And how are the children?

35 comments:

  1. You're absolutely right on the fact that the children are penalized for the apathetic decisions of the Board of Education. However, it is easy and quite ignorant for one perspective to say "Academy kids get everything" in order to justify one's disinterest and disrespectful behavior in school. It is vital to remember that Academy students were lied to during their application process and as students were denied many privelages they were promised for their hard work and good grades during their academic life. In turn, this unfairness leads to disappoinement from students equally on both sides of the campus that are acted upon in improper manners such as fights, vandalism, and disrespect and indifference from faculty. Ultimately, someone who lied to the families and students of all the students does not care about the well-being and education of DMAE students.

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    1. when I stated Academy kids get everything, that is the opinion of various HS students.

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    2. You previously said "I spoke to a group of approximately 30 students, some from the academies, most from the regular school," you obviously got a biased picture of the school, from students outside of the Academies. Get the real picture, lady.

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    3. I got the picture, No one wants to talk about the academies since they said it is the best thing that has happened to Englewood. But think for a minute if you have problems in the academy, just think of what the regular kids are going thru. At least in the Academies you are dealing with kids that are at the same level and have similar behaviors. That was my point. I think we can improve ALL the schools in Englewood. There are kids from the Quarles that come out without knowing how to read.

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  2. Academies kids do NOT get everything. As an Academies kid, I don't know what my opinion is worth. However, since this entire post was simply based on a meaningless and rather unprofessional survey of many students from Dwight Morrow, I will say that my opinion is probably worth more than this entire post. For what it's worth, I can assure you that Academies students do NOT get everything. Nay, we don't get anything. For crying out loud, Academies building has electronic lockers on the first floor but regular old-style lockers on the second floor. I guess the first floor has electronic lockers for the "show" when the new freshmen enter.

    I can stand people talking badly about our school system(because it just is THAT bad). What I cannot stand is when people blame the teachers for the academic failures. It's completely absurd. LEAVE THE TEACHERS ALONE. Blame the students who refuse to engage in and value academic learning and the administrators who fail to do their jobs as the enforcers. Please don't use teachers as some scapegoats to escape blame because it is extremely clear who is at fault.

    It's truly a pity that the students are able to see the problems of our school, but we don't get any say in what happens. If you want to question "How are the children?", please just ask them. They'll be more than happy to answer the question that everyone wants to know but does not dare to find out.

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    1. First of all if you feel you Academies kids do not get everything put yourself in a regular high school student, or better yet, ask to spend a day in the regular school and you will see what I am talking about. If you think the opinion of your peers is meaningless and unprofessional then you really have a narrow vision. Personaly, the only reason I am fighting for all the kids is because I care for them to get the best education they can in order to succeed. My son like you is a honor student, his grade point average in he 4.306 GPA in the Honor program. Apart from that he is gifted and with his grades and scores he can go to any school he wishes for free. Secondly, I did not say anything bad about the teachers, I only stated situations that happened with a teacher and I spoke to teachers and they expressed their unhappiness, I did not made that up. 3rd it is a fact that some teachers once they reach tenure don't want to step out of the box and it is also a fact that the regular high school kids are treated like second class citizens by ALL. So if you want to express your opinion and state how you feel, I invite you and your friends to the board meetings and explained to the panel what you see as the truth or reality. And finally to your questions on asking the children how they are doing? I have been doing from the Quarles School to the High School, and that is the reason why I have gotten involve. I volunteered at McCloud for a year going every day from 7 to 3 and I learned how to love and understand the story behind each child. That is the only reason I am fighting for all of you.

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    2. Also, if you defend the teachers so much because you admire and respect them, where was the high school teacher's respect, when during the African American Heritage Month, pointed at three black students and stated "this month we will learn about you, and you and you". I ask you what is that? in order to ask for respect you have to start giving it first.

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    3. What honors program is your son in? Just curious.

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    4. I really like you for being outspoken. However, I don't appreciate that my teachers are bashed and misrepresented by the select few. My personal experience at A@E contradicts your statement about some teachers not willing to step out of the box once they reach tenure. The more experience teachers(the ones with tenure) are actually better teachers in my school. I don't appreciate that you have this unfounded notion that "Academies kids get everything." You say, "I am fighting for all of you," but I don't believe that you're fighting for me. How much lower do Academies kids have to be pushed before people actually realize that there is no more room for us to be pushed further?

      I did not understand your last comment. Your first sentence(or a question) lacked a subject. Who pointed at the black students? I will love to discuss the African American Heritage Month at my school. I have very strong feelings about the Month.

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  3. Next time, let's hope that no one uses some long and pointless childhood analogies to bring up a point. What is this nonsense about, "since a 10 year-old girl figured out how to take care of her younger sister, we must be able to solve this problem." With the same logic, I present to you, "since I can make my bed, I can do anything in life."

    I assure you that the biggest problem is the cultural values of the people of Englewood.

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    1. The pointless anaology was an example to show that first because a child may have a special need does not mean he/she is stupid. 2nd you should be lucky that you can make your bed and can do anything because you are NORMAL. If you have not lived with someone or experienced yourself the frustration and the challenge that is to learn things, you cannot give a true opinion. If you are so smart think about that.

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    2. I don't know why a child with special needs is pertinent. You also brought up another idea that doesn't seem to make much sense to me. "If you are not xyz, you cannot give an opinion about xyz". What? "If you don't smoke, you obviously cannot say that smoking is bad." or "If you don't do drugs, you cannot say doing drugs is bad." What kind of a logic is that?

      If it warrants anything, I have lived with someone with disabilities, and I take the matter very seriously.

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  4. How can you so boldly imply that the Academies are what is causing children "pain"? There are similar conditions in the South Building as well, and many Academies students can attest to that. Students claim that Dwight Morrow has bad lunch, when the regular school has more options, more food, and a bigger cafeteria than the Academies. "Academies kids get everything." Indeed, assuming that "everything" includes broken computers, keyboards, and mice (often cheap and pink rhinestone-studded), old lockers, and teachers that do not want to teach. That's right; they are not exclusive to Dwight Morrow. Admittedly, a part of the low test scores and graduation rates could in fact be caused by unmotivated or inadequate teachers, but it cannot be entirely blamed on them. Test scores and graduation rates are one thing, but it is an entirely different matter to blame drug use, fights, and suspensions on teachers. Rather than focusing on the teachers, perhaps attention should be turned to the students that are starting fights, doing drugs, failing tests, and getting suspended. Shockingly enough, problems among students could be caused by students themselves.

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  5. Majority of Academy students feel the unwelcoming hostility from the Dwight Morrow students on a daily basis. It is not the Academy students' fault that they got caught up in the mess. Lay off, they already have hatred coming from the other high school students, they don't need it from the adults too.

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  6. How can you blatantly state that only the Academies are to blame in this matter? If you really cared about the school district then wouldn't you first do a bit more observing before making such assumptions? And to target the Academies as being the sole criminal in this matter is absurd. It may be true that some Academy kids are unruly, but it is not at the fault of the teachers. I'm sure you are knowledgeable enough to know that teachers both in the Academies and Dwight Morrow are very highly qualified. As being the student of a biology teacher and history teacher that teaches for Dwight Morrow, I can state that these teachers do as good as or even better of a job than Academy teachers. Therefore, it is in my opinion that if the teachers are equal in standards and qualifications, then it is at the fault of the student. Dwight Morrow students use the Academies as a scapegoat for all their problems in life. Maybe if these students actually tried and put in the effort, they could reach the potential of the Academy students.

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  7. Enlighten us, what is the difference between "Academies" students and "regular" students? The Academies@Englewood is an honors program that was designed to push through a higher level of education and a sense of diversity to the school campus. "Regular" students are not bereft of attending honors classes - is it not their responsibility, of their own efforts, to push themselves for a higher degree of education? Is it not the "regular" teachers faults? Who is to really blame? It can go either way.

    The failure of cultural diversity is at fault of administrators, teachers, and students alike. To go off on a tangent on a careless students' survey's opinion alone is to put in a careless effort to truly analyze what may be going on. If administration and Board of Education truly cared of violence and suspensions and drug usage among students, it is not being shown very explicitly.

    There are several sides to a situation; realize it.

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  8. I believe that too much responsibility is put onto the shoulders of the teachers, their influence only covers what time they are given in the classroom. After those given 45 minutes to a period, their influence for students to feel motivated to study, do homework or even look over their notes is diminished. As a student, most of my motivation doesn't come from my parents or even my teachers, but my peers! It is ridiculous to assume that teachers can be able to entirely change the environment of a school. An example of this is a new school implemented in Manhattan, New York. Teachers there are given a starting salary of $125,000 and bonuses of $25,000 for each improvement in the test scores of their students. However, results have shown that these students, have not shown much improvement. As teachers who make $125,000 a year, it is safe to assume that they are very motivated or willing to help their students do well, not even accounting for the $25,000 bonus that is rewarded to the teachers who do raise the overall score of students. Students are mostly affected by other students, if other students plagiarize and receive the same grade that those who did their own work, the motivation is completely destroyed to do their own original work. This goes for both sides of the school, the North side and the South side of the Englewood Public School District; it can easily be argued that the North building is favored compared to the Academy side. First, the North Building library has been recently upgraded with a larger library and computers. What about the Academy Common Area? Computers taken away and the lack of available mice? Or perhaps how the North Building can so easily affect the Academy students, in which Dual Enrollment courses were previously considered "electives" for Academy students, forcing Academy students to take both their course in Spanish III Honors, and then including Spanish Dual Enrollment Honors? It is clear that there is favor towards the North Building.

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  9. The Academies @ Englewood do not get even half of the attention that Dwight Morrow or "regular" students do. When compared to magnet schools such as Bergen Tech or Bergen County Academies, we lack in MANY areas. Why is this? Because most of the money that the district is given goes to Dwight Morrow's programs. That fact, however, doesn't seem to bother me as much as the ignorance of the parents of Dwight Morrow students. First of all, Academy students worked exceptionally hard in middle school to get into an honors program. Therefore, it would make sense to REWARD them, not punish them, wouldn't it? I would think that most people would understand such a simple concept, but I guess the bias held by many Englewood residents blinds them from even the simplest of facts. Second of all, Academy kids are often verbally berated by Dwight Morrow kids. I take gym in Dwight Morrow, which does not bother me one bit. However, it does actually irk me when Dwight Morrow students are rude enough to call us "nerds" or students with no life simply because we plan out our future. Why do Dwight Morrow students suddenly feel as if Academy students are attacking them? If we are putting time and effort into our education, then what seems to be wrong? Should we dumb ourselves down to boost the Dwight Morrow students' morale? You commented that your son is in an honors program. Well, obviously you need to learn to level Academy students with your son then. We all are working for our future and we joined an honors program in the hopes of gaining an edge when applying to college since not all of us are supported by the affirmative action policies. So why are you attacking Academy students and not looking at the faults of Dwight Morrow students? Our parents have pushed us to work our hardest and that has brought us to where we are now. If the parents of the "regular" students want their kids to have the same level of classes, then maybe they should take a bigger role in their child's education. You, Liliana, seem to be nothing more than an Englewood resident with a bit too much to complain about. Learn to see the other side of the story before attacking us. Maybe you should take a stronger initiative in your community to help increase student interest in education rather than blaming students that are not from the area.

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    1. I agree with this comment about Dwight Morrow always garnering more attention than the Academies. For example, in assemblies, the school is nearly always referred to as "Dwight Morrow High School", with hardly ever any reference to Academies @ Englewood. Not to mention, the two schools' athletes are grouped together as "Dwight Morrow High School". The name "Academies @ Englewood" hardly rings a bell in the minds of people outside of Englewood. What's the point of being accepted into an honors program if we're just going to be grouped with the regular school's students?

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  10. So I learned that in order to succeed in life, blackmail and extortion is the way to go! Thank You! I will try to apply this life lesson in my life from now on!

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  11. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU JUST HATE OUT OF DISTRICT KIDS AND LIKE TO BLAME THEM FOR THE PROBLEMS OF DWIGHT MORROW.

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  12. DM and AE need to be separated

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    1. AMEN TO THAT! WE BETTER GET SEPARATE DIPLOMAS!

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  13. Don't even bother pulling out the "go back to your district" argument, because I can find more than a handful of A@E students who are from Englewood saying the exact same thing that everyone here has been talking about.

    By the way, A@E students have been presenting THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS to the board since they decided to merge the schools. All they do is nod, seem as though they have listened, and don't do squat for us. We are just here to make Englewood look good for the government. We are nothing like how Dr. John Grieco envisioned this school to be...he actually expected us to be BETTER than Bergen County Academies within the first ten years of A@E.

    Yup. Ten years and A@E has sunk down a deep hole.

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  14. I would like to know as a former Englewood resident, what does the DIPLOMA read when issued to the students on Graduation Day? Does it read, Dwight Morrow High School?"

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  15. I think all of you have missed the point of the article. It would be good if you could assist the board meetings so you know what is going on. The point of this article was the following:

    1. That the district has to pay 2.3million dollars to 3 previous HS kids because they were sexually abused by an administrator, and how the board and the superintendent at the time failed to protect this children.

    2. I Have been fighting for all the children, but I was under the assumption that everything was fine at the academies. Based on your responses I guess it is not.

    3. I did not made the statement of "the academies kids get everything" that was the opinion of a student.

    4. I never blamed the academies for anything, if you learn to understand the context of what you read, I said THE ABUSED WAS HIDDEN IN ORDER NOT TO HINDER NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE ACADEMIES AT THE TIME.

    5. Carlisle when he first started stated at a board meeting that his main job at the high school was to unite the two sides and stop the segregation.

    4. Thank God people did not give up on Einstein and Newton since they were autistic because it would have been a great loss to the world. The point is that we cannot give up on children that have a condition because it does not mean their stupid.

    5. If you want to know what I have spoken about just give me your e-mail address and I will forward anyone my speeches and you will see I am speaking for all the children.

    6. I feel really sad to see that anyone that has answered this article has felt for those abused kids. It is a sad to know that we have grown inmune to people's pain.

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  16. "I got the picture, No one wants to talk about the academies since they said it is the best thing that has happened to Englewood. But think for a minute if you have problems in the academy, just think of what the regular kids are going thru. At least in the Academies you are dealing with kids that are at the same level and have similar behaviors. That was my point. I think we can improve ALL the schools in Englewood. There are kids from the Quarles that come out without knowing how to read."

    Excuse me, but whoever said that the Academies was the "best thing" that has ever happened to Englewood? And please, for the sake of your own esteem and respect, implement some proper grammar into your arguments. What is the difference between "regular" kids and "Academies" kids? There is absolutely nothing stopping "regular" kids from approaching the same kind of vigorous education that Academies students receive; actually, it is of their own accord and efforts of taking their education to a higher degree. The Academies is an honors program of Dwight Morrow High School, which does not prevent Dwight Morrow High School from also participating in honors classes or extra electives. If they are unmotivated to do so, maybe administration is partly to blame - ultimately, the choice is theirs. Before making any judgments on Academies students, such as saying that all the students are "on the same level and have similar behaviors," try and get to know the students of the Academies first.

    If anything could be putting down Dwight Morrow High School, it is you labeling them as "regular school" students. Every school can be improved, obviously - but the segregation of A@E and DMHS (of which are on the very same campus!) has gone on for so long... and ultimately, as everything comes down to students' decisions, there is not much to be done, unless some cultural changes take effect (whether out-of-district or district students).

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  17. For all of you who don't know there is only ONE HIGH SCHOOL in Englewood and it is call DMHS. There are not TWO SEPARTE schools therefore, when people say DM students that includes THE ACADEMIES students too.

    That is the point of this whole thing. If you go to the Department of Education, the Academies are listed under DMHS Academies. I am not making this up it is in black and white eventhought some of you want to see it as two different schools.

    The situation was the same at the middle school, it was call JDMS and they had a pre-academy program, now is the Honor Program, but everything is under one umbrella.

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  18. The problem is that when we applied for the Academies @ Englewood, we were told it was another Bergen County Academy or Bergen Tech. If there is no such thing as an Academies @ Englewood, whoever is doing the advertising should stop. There are plenty of honors programs at other town high schools that the out-of-district high school students can attend. Why should the out-of-district students have to fill out an application and take a test in order to come to an honors program out of their town? Why should we have to wake up extra early to catch our buses in the morning to come to the same school as Dwight Morrow students when they get to wake up almost an hour later to attend? Why did the banner in the south building lobby say "Academies @ Englewood welcomes the class of 2016" for the orientation this past Tuesday? I was so taken aback when I found out how much Dwight Morrow and the Academies @ Englewood were intermingled when I first came to this school. Then I realized that I was more upset about the fact that I was tricked into thinking this school was something more than an ordinary high school when it was only an honors program. If there will no longer be an Academies @ Englewood, there should be no such advertisement. It is NOT FAIR for the students applying to this school thinking it is a great school when they just advertise it as such just to accept smarter students to help bring up the standardized test scores for the Englewood Public High School and continue receiving state funds!

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  19. Just to remind my 'comrades', The name is intertwined into the same concept however every academy in our school has its own school code. I figured this out when i took my AP test and i was given my Finance Academy school code instead of DM's, so relax about the "same school" crap. Sure we're given a Dwight Morrow Diploma which isn't really worth that much but we're ranked as students in our respective academy. That's what colleges see (i hope).

    I regret nothing, and all of this arguing is the reason why we cant have nice things.

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  20. You can't presume to know such thin without having an accurate and accredited survey. You chose to survey those who DO NOT go to our school. How was that in any way a good decision about finding out what happens in the Academies? If you want to know about the children, then ask away. But ask the children involved, not a group of biased people with no particular reason to tell the complete and honest truth. Also, your experience is not valid. Time change, we're in a new century. You can't possibly relate your experience with our because the schooling system has change so much within the last few years. You cannot cast us as the failures, when it's simply not true. Do your jobs, and put us first. You're apart of the Board of Education, not arrogance.

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  21. First I am not a board member.

    Secondly if you want an accurate survey go to the NJ schools ranking and see where englewood is.

    Third, go to the test score results and see what number Englewood is given from 1 to 10.

    Lastly, there are more schools in the district of Englewood that the Academies. I talked to kids from all the schools. And yes it is the 21 century and kids are still coming out of quarles without knowing how to read.

    Also, if you or your parents attend the board meetings you will see the deep hole that the district is in.

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  22. I find this entire conversation to be ridiculous. First it's the teacher's fault students don't want to learn, then it's the administrations fault. When does anything become the student's fault. Having taught students from both the North and the South buildings, I can say with certainty that the difference is evident. Most of the student's in the South building put forth the effort to earn the grades they get, and they do this with substanard equiptment and resources. Don't tell me to put myself in the place of the "regular" students because they are all regular students. The difference is the level of expectation. If the students feel that teachers are not expecting enough, maybe it is time to self motivate! All students are capable of learning; it is a matter of whether they want to or not. This political game that everybody is planning is benefiting nobody. In my opinion, everybody is out for their own agenda, not the welfare of the students.

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  23. This BLOG is poorly written in all honesty. if Academy students get EVERYTHING, well lets look at the cafeterias, look at the Library and Media Center (Which is equipped with MAC computers). ANY honors class academy kids take DM students can do so as well so there is no discrimination. And before you start throwing out numbers about suspensions look at what they are for, bet you very few of them were for severe acts. Also as far as our testing grades dropping and etc. My grade (Class of 2012) posted the best results for the HSPA for Dwight Morrow in YEARS! so i'm not sure if you saying that we are going in the wrong direction has any validity.

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